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Kari
04-07-2006, 11:37 AM
The Da Vinci Code author Dan Brown did not breach the copyright of an earlier book, London's High Court has ruled.

Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh, who wrote 1982 book The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, sued Random House, publisher of both books.

Mr Brown said the verdict "shows that this claim was utterly without merit".

The ruling clears the way for the Da Vinci Code movie's release in May. Mr Baigent and Mr Leigh must pay 85% of Random House's costs of almost £1.3m.

Both books explore the theory that Jesus and Mary Magdalene had a child and the bloodline survives to this day.

Mr Baigent and Mr Leigh argued that Dan Brown copied their book's "central theme".

But the judge, Mr Justice Peter Smith, said The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail did not have a central theme in the way its authors suggested.

"It was an artificial creation for the purposes of the litigation working back from the Da Vinci Code," he ruled.

Dan Brown did use the previous book to write certain parts of his thriller, the judge decided, but did not substantially copy their work.

Mr Brown said he was "still astonished that these two authors chose to file their suit at all".

Both books explore the theory that Jesus and Mary Magdalene had a child and the bloodline survives to this day.

Mr Baigent and Mr Leigh argued that Dan Brown copied their book's "central theme".

But the judge, Mr Justice Peter Smith, said The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail did not have a central theme in the way its authors suggested.

"It was an artificial creation for the purposes of the litigation working back from the Da Vinci Code," he ruled.

Dan Brown did use the previous book to write certain parts of his thriller, the judge decided, but did not substantially copy their work.

Mr Brown said he was "still astonished that these two authors chose to file their suit at all".

A novelist must be free to "draw appropriately" from historical works without facing a court and having his integrity called into question, he said.

"After devoting so much time and energy to this case, I'm eager to get back to writing my new novel."

Random House chief executive Gail Rebuck welcomed the judgment, saying: "We are pleased that justice - and common sense - have prevailed.

"It is highly unusual and very sad that these authors chose to sue their publishers, especially after 20 successful years."

Mr Justice Smith ordered Mr Leigh and Mr Baigent to make an interim payment of £350,000 by 5 May and refused the authors permission to appeal.

Mr Leigh told reporters outside the court: "I think by its very nature, this case entailed a conflict between the spirit of the law and the letter of the law.

"We lost on the letter of the law, I think we won on the spirit of the law, and to that extent we feel vindicated."

The third author of The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, Henry Lincoln, did not take part in the claim.

There had been fears that the Hollywood blockbuster of The Da Vinci Code, starring Tom Hanks and Audrey Tautou, could be delayed if the ruling went the other way.

Mr Justice Smith ordered Mr Leigh and Mr Baigent to make an interim payment of £350,000 by 5 May and refused the authors permission to appeal.

Mr Leigh told reporters outside the court: "I think by its very nature, this case entailed a conflict between the spirit of the law and the letter of the law.

"We lost on the letter of the law, I think we won on the spirit of the law, and to that extent we feel vindicated."

The third author of The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, Henry Lincoln, did not take part in the claim.

There had been fears that the Hollywood blockbuster of The Da Vinci Code, starring Tom Hanks and Audrey Tautou, could be delayed if the ruling went the other way.

Film company Sony said the verdict was "very important for the future of creative writing in the UK".

Sony welcomed the result and said it would release the film as planned next month.

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Source: BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4886234.stm)

It would really have surprised me if this had gone any other way.
I mean, seriously, DaVInci code, whether one likes it or not, is a literary work and not a theoretical book. It is so riddiculous to accuse an author of plagiarism when he has invented an entire story around one thesis that was once described in a nonfictional.

Noah
04-07-2006, 02:35 PM
Those dudes were just pissed off because The Davinci Code is receiving so much acclaim and hype- and, of course, a major motion picture deal. I'm glad Brown won the case.

It isn't obvious at all that they file this lawsuit on the cusp of the movie being released. If they were that appalled by Dan Brown plagiarising their book then, perhaps, they would have sued random house three years ago when the book was first published. Or, hey, I could be wrong.

FaithGirl16
04-07-2006, 04:05 PM
I'm glad Brown and Co. won. I too thought the whole lawsuit thing was ridiculous. It was about as ridiculous as that other author trying to sue JK Rowling for stealing the term "muggle". So pathetic. To me these two slimeballs were only looking for attention.

Kari
04-07-2006, 04:38 PM
Yeah, looking for attention with this beautiful absurdity. Seriously.
The man did write an entire book, a plot, etc. He did a lot of research that went further than stealing from other books, he created characters and he wrote all of it. How's that plagiarism? Hot damn.

HappyHamster
04-07-2006, 05:15 PM
Ah well, I did hear the sales of their own book went up dramatically because of all the attention they were getting. Motive anyone?

Andrew
04-08-2006, 08:43 AM
Although the sales did go up, "The Da Vinci Code" has been up there in the top 10 and making money for like a decade now (and counting)...

Danizinha
04-08-2006, 02:23 PM
I saw that on TV :)
I'm glad he won.
It's amazing how people can make something up just to get attention and try to get some money.

Kari
04-08-2006, 03:05 PM
Well, people actually do more to get money.
But still it is amazing that is true.

Danizinha
04-08-2006, 03:22 PM
Yeah they do...
People don't have boundaries anymore...
But oh well...At least he won :)

XDDD
04-10-2006, 06:51 PM
:lol:

Everytime someone mentions coca-cola in a novel could get sued for not inventing their own drink for the book; everytime someone mentions a light bulb should be hunted by Edison's ghost...

Stupid stupid...

Everything in literature has been "done" before. A completely original thing is no longer possible...

so there's always something to sue for.

Webeh
04-10-2006, 11:55 PM
Even though I would have cackled if the historian actually won the case, it's probably for the better that they didn't. Would have set a very dangerous precedent if they had. No author would be safe from then on. I don't dislike the book enough (it's very overrated) that I wouldn't mind condemning other writers.

Danizinha
04-12-2006, 03:51 PM
Claudia: That's true :lol:

It's difficult not to mention something that has been done before...
But I don't think The Da Vince Code was a copy...

torypops
04-14-2006, 03:32 AM
I read somewhere that there are new claims of plagiarism (prob spelt that wrong) from another source! I guess they are thinking hey lotta publicity there I think i'll jump on the bandwagon too :mad:

Danizinha
04-14-2006, 02:59 PM
I read somewhere that there are new claims of plagiarism (prob spelt that wrong) from another source! I guess they are thinking hey lotta publicity there I think i'll jump on the bandwagon too :mad:

That would be to bad...
But hey...Dan will probably win that one too, if it really goes forward :)

Webeh
04-23-2006, 09:57 PM
^ And, he did win it. ;)

Seriously, if you're pissed off that someone got to an idea before you (or got more attention for it), what you're supposed to do is rip it apart rather sue. Find all the inconsistencies, faults, etc in the theory and make them look like a fool. That's what happens in the academic world (aka. journal articles).

OC-Lover
04-24-2006, 03:50 AM
It was so ridiculous.
I'm glad he won.

mimsicool
04-27-2006, 12:16 AM
This is marginally OT, but...
Am I the only person who is getting sick of hearing arguments about the Da Vinci Code, like how utterly blasphemic it is, whether or not it's true and all that?

I go to a Catholic church, I'm Christian and I have read the book, and enjoyed it (although I thought the ending was built up with no follow through, but this isn't a book review so let me stick to the point...) as a work of fiction. Why do people choose to get so riled up about these things?
Far OUT. Personally, I'm going to see the movie and I think it'll be pretty good. What I find ironic is the fact that the reason the story is so poular is because it IS controversial and people who kick up a stink about it are almost helping sell the books.

Uhh...not sure if that was intelligible, but it makes sense in my head...

Returning to the topic:
At the risk of sounding like everyone else who's posted, I can't help but make a connection between the court case and the fact the movie's coming out soon.

Bely
04-30-2006, 06:54 PM
i think the book was orignal,no plagiarism (sp?) involved,i think someone was just jelous of how brilliant the book was,cuz i've read the book and it's absolutely brilliant

Webeh
05-20-2006, 12:16 AM
^ I have to disagree with you here, but not because I'm not a fan of Dan Brown's writing. It's just that I don't think there is such a thing as a completely original book, nor will there ever be. All books are influenced by something and this one was clearly influenced by theories others have thought up. (What Dan Brown talks about in his book are not new theories. He just made them popular.) This is just the nature of art.

Sorry if I'm being too nit-picky about what people say again. It's a weakness of mine. ;)

mimsicool
05-24-2006, 07:50 AM
Whilst I understand where you're coming from, and in esence, agree...I feel the need to put forward this (if not only for the sake of stirring the pot): It would seem your statement is a Catch 22, because everything has to start somewhere. So yes, there are original books. At some point, they were new ideas.

Webeh
05-26-2006, 03:31 AM
Ooh, sharp. :)

But, I'm still going to have to yabber on purely for the sake of conversation. ;)

What would be your definition of an original book? One that offers an idea that has never been discussed before? Or, one that discusses something that just wasn't addressed in a book before?

I still believe that all books (even if it's the first to discuss the subject on paper) have been influenced by something else, be it a common opinion or a historical event (for example). If your defintion of an original book is the first one, then I'm still going to have to stand behind my original claim.

mimsicool
05-27-2006, 09:14 AM
Yay! Conversation!

Original, as taken from dictionary.com (www.dictionary.com) means "Productive of new things or new ideas; inventive"

Most definitions you will find outline the same idea- that it is the first of something.

Books are influenced by things, because that's what books are. Books are information, words, stories based on something, whether that thing be a historical event, a mathematic formula, a person's life and whether it is fiction or non-fiction. BUT, you can have an roginal book in that it is the first to publish or formally put forward such an idea or collection of ideas and thoughts.