Discussion of the Administration's Policies

[Ashlyn]

No Bashing, Just Discussion, Thanks.

I have been very dissapointed in the way this administration has handled the war in Iraq, education (with no Child Left Behind), and the budget. I feel like they have put a war (which, studies show, is breeding the very thing they're trying to fight) before the education and health of their own people.

Other views?

[OC-Lover]

i completely agree.

but you know, i better don't add anything, or this will be closed.

notice the sarcasm?
yes? take a cookie.

[Ashlyn]

Please, Tanya, post facts we could discuss.

As said earlier, all views are welcome here, but some of us will be looking quite critically. If somebody wants to post facts that oppose ours, that would be welcome as well. We'll try to get to the truth!

[OTH man]

I think overall Bush has done.. okay on the war.

its really some other things hes done i like (for one, he made it illegal for that one kind of abortion where you deliver the baby, and have the doctor kill the baby) how sick is that?

OT: i love the title of this thread, i laughed for a good minute and a half

[danyjoncew]

I shall remain silent.

[zealousheart]

I agree with you. The war in Iraq seems to me like something the UN could have handled- it's like why was it any of our business? I do not necessarily think it's a good thing to leave now, but yeah, I think it was a drastic measure before it was required when there are things to deal with in the country.

As for No Child Left Behind places so much emphasis on tests. Schoolteachers and students do not really support it because how would you like it if you're whole curriculum had to based on tests. It already kinda was before that cause of SATS.

[Heather]

How could the UN have handled it?

[amberdawn]

its really some other things hes done i like (for one, he made it illegal for that one kind of abortion where you deliver the baby, and have the doctor kill the baby) how sick is that?

I'm really confused on your view. Are you glad it's illegal or not? Just wondering.

[Andrew]

^I think he's referring to the act of aborting the child as "sick" (a misplaced parenthesis, perhaps)


In terms of the "No Child Left Behind" act: my issue is that it lacks funding. It's one thing to implement it, and it's another thing to implement it effectively. Without funding, teachers aren't able to prepare their students. And most schools already stuggle as it is.

[OTH man]

yes, andrew got me, i did misplace the parenthesis, I'm very glad it's illegal

[Ashlyn]

I'm against partial-birth abortions as well. It's one thing I actually side with Bush on. It's a baby at that point, in my opinion. The fact that it was ever legal disturbs me.

I agree with you on "No Child Left Behind" Andrew, at least in that, to be effective, it needs more funding. In fact, I simply think our public schools need more funding period.

[Kari]

What confuses me quite a lot about American politics is the absolute lack of relation between the etat for the military and the one for education.

[danyjoncew]

I think due to the other side getting more representative power, the "administration policies" might evolve. And that "this administration has handled" a war it didn't even have to handle in the first place.

[Ashlyn]

It is quite nice to see Democrats with more power in Congress, I agree. Sadly, at this point, all they can really do is deny funding, which puts them in a really bad position. However, maybe the President will notice that the majority of his Congress wants to end this war, and change his mind on the troop surge. It seems unlikely, but still possible. This Congress is the most recently elected voice of the people, and it would be quite nice if the President would listen to them.

[Andrew]

I'm a little iffy on that issue. It's kind of a quagmire.

If they block the funding, the soldiers aren't equipped and aren't able to defend themselves. Then Left then gets accused of not caring about the soldiers.

If they don't block the funding, that sort of gives the incentive to send in more troops. Then when the Democrats object, the fact that they voted for the funding gets thrown in their faces.

It's coercion, really.

[Ashlyn]

So true, Andrew.

No matter what they do, they can be painted to look bad. However, they were voted in with a vote of confidence that they would change things, so they have to do something. It's nice how even some on the Republican side agree.

[Heather]

What really upsets me was the nonbinding resolution. They did nothing but waste the taxpayers money to make a point. If you feel that strongly, do something about it. Dont just do political manuevering.

Thats one thing I really like about Bush. He doesnt play around. He says what he means, and does what he says. He's straightforward, and I like that about him.

Thats also something I love about Rudy.