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Faith
02-27-2007, 05:27 AM
(says a film maker. How convenient)

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Jesus tomb found, says film-maker

A documentary claims this is the ossuary of Jesus Christ

[picture of tomb]


Jesus had a son named Judah and was buried alongside Mary Magdalene, according to a new documentary by Hollywood film director James Cameron.
The film examines a tomb found near Jerusalem in 1980 which producers say belonged to Jesus and his family.

Speaking in New York, the Oscar-winning Titanic director said statistical tests and DNA analysis backed this view.

But Mr Cameron's claim has been attacked by archaeologists and theologians as unfounded.

Archaeologists said that the burial cave was probably that of a Jewish family with similar names to that of Jesus.

But Mr Cameron said the combination of names found on the tombs convinced him of their heritage.

Samples tested

Israeli construction workers building an apartment complex in Jerusalem's East Talpiot district first uncovered 10 of the 2,000-year-old ossuaries - or limestone coffins - in a tomb in March 1980.

According to the Israel Antiquities Authority, six of those coffins were marked with the names Mary; Matthew; Jesua son of Joseph; Mary; Jofa (Joseph, Jesus' brother); and Judah son of Jesua.

It doesn't get bigger than this

James Cameron
Hollywood film director

Another grave said by producers to be of Mary Magdalene convinced researchers of the truth of their find, Mr Cameron said at a New York news conference.

Unveiling his documentary The Lost Tomb of Jesus, Mr Cameron said the chances of finding that combination of names together was like finding a grave marked Ringo next to others marked John, Paul and George.

"Mariamene is Mary Magdalene - that's the Ringo, that's what sets this whole film in motion," he said.

Christian contradiction?

The documentary asserts that tests on samples from two of the coffins show Jesus and Mary Magdalene were likely to have been buried in them and were a couple.

The film-makers used this finding to claim that the coffin marked "Judah son of Jesua" contains the son of Jesus and Mary.

But they said the discovery of the tomb does not undermine the key Christian belief that Jesus was resurrected three days after his death.

Academic Stephen Pfann, a scholar at the University of the Holy Land in Jerusalem, said he did not expect Christians to accept the film's findings.

"I don't think that Christians are going to buy into this," said Mr Pfann, who was interviewed by the film-makers.

"But sceptics, in general, would like to see something that pokes holes into the story that so many people hold dear."

Findings refuted

Israeli archaeologist Amos Kloner, who was among the first to examine the tomb when it was first discovered, said the names marked on the coffins were very common at the time.


Film director James Cameron produced the documentary
"I don't accept the news that it was used by Jesus or his family," he told the BBC News website.

"The documentary filmmakers are using it to sell their film."

Mr Cameron showed two of the coffins at the news conference.

"It doesn't get bigger than this," he said in an earlier press release.

"We've done our homework; we've made the case; and now it's time for the debate to begin."

Local residents told the BBC News website they were pleased with the attention the tomb has drawn.

"It will mean our house prices will go up because Christians will want to live here," one woman said.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6397373.stm

Kari
02-27-2007, 09:47 AM
they find it every few years, me thinks...

california9
02-27-2007, 10:21 AM
ok i guess

everwoodisfab
02-27-2007, 12:16 PM
they find it every few years, me thinks...

exactly what I was going to say

olivetree
02-27-2007, 12:47 PM
Personally, I think there's more important things to do besides search for Jesus' tomb. God won't be mad at us if we use our talents and/or time for something else. You either believe in God or you don't. Finding physical proof isn't going to change that because if you need proof to believe in something then you don't really believe at all and have no sense of faith..Faith is supposed to be believing without seeing not just all of the sudden believing because you saw something.

And, for the record...isn't James Cameron supposed to be off directing a movie or something that movie directors do? When did he become a theologist?!

amberdawn
02-27-2007, 01:29 PM
I don't believe one word of this. Jesus did not have children.

Faith
02-27-2007, 01:47 PM
And, for the record...isn't James Cameron supposed to be off directing a movie or something that movie directors do? When did he become a theologist?!

Maybe when he saw how much money it made Mel Gibson?

Heather
02-27-2007, 06:17 PM
But Mel's film wasnt a documentary.

I heard about this on the radio Monday morning. My response was "whatever", and thats what Im sticking too.

Faith
02-27-2007, 06:22 PM
But Mel's film wasnt a documentary.

I was referring to theology in movies, not the film genre

Heather
02-27-2007, 06:59 PM
Oh, gotcha.

Webeh
02-27-2007, 09:32 PM
My response was "whatever", and thats what Im sticking too.

I was just about to ask: Is it okay that my reaction was essentially "Whatever..."?

I guess it is. :)

*Ashlee*
02-28-2007, 12:02 AM
I can certainly say im feeling skeptical about this one. How many times can they come out with a story like this! lol

Heather
02-28-2007, 12:43 AM
I just keep thinking, when did James Cameron become an archeologist?

*Ashlee*
02-28-2007, 12:46 AM
After he got out of deep sea exploring perhaps? hmmm

That is a good question though!

Let Jesus Rest in Peace already :(

Heather
02-28-2007, 07:01 PM
Seriously....its been 2000 years. Leave the poor guy alone, already. First the shroud, now this. *shakes head*

Ashlyn
02-28-2007, 11:33 PM
Was there... a body in this suppposed tomb of Jesus?

:lol: That is the weirdest question ever.

It seems completely ridiculous that they could prove it was his, but it does seem weird that James Cameron would jump in with his reputation if he didn't at least believe it was. I'm going to assume he just got wrapped up in the possibility.

Heather
03-01-2007, 12:30 AM
What reputation? He's not exactly respected in the intellectual community. Ask a historian about Titanic (the movie), and they will chew your ear off. :lol:

olivetree
03-01-2007, 03:45 PM
Let Jesus Rest in Peace already :(

Him and Anna Nicole Smith...

I have never understood why people have such a hard time letting people REST IN PEACE. If you're not going to let them rest peacefully, it defeats the whole purpose of the saying.

I still think there's other people to pick on who are still alive and well (for the most part anyway)...like Micheal Jackson, Madonna, or even Posh Spice.


Besides...being a Christian and having read the Bible I could've sworn they said Jesus' body was no longer in the tomb hence there would be no remains...

Faith
03-01-2007, 04:23 PM
:lol: Bit of a difference between Jesus and Anna Nicole Smith

I can see why people would want to find this stuff but this guy sounds so silly

Webeh
03-01-2007, 08:36 PM
What reputation? He's not exactly respected in the intellectual community. Ask a historian about Titanic (the movie), and they will chew your ear off.

Neither is he among the movie community. James Cameron isn't exactly known for making the greatest of films. Titanic was a horrendous film and he's been stuck on that topic for almost the last decade. The guy lacks any sort of creativity when it comes to film.

Although, he is responsible for getting Kate Winslet and Leonardo Dicaprio more attention. I guess that could be his only bright spot.

Heather
03-02-2007, 01:30 AM
I dont know...I really enjoyed T2 :lol:

Webeh
03-02-2007, 02:13 AM
T2? Was there a sequel I don't know about?

I know there's a fake trailer for a fake sequel moving about on YouTube.

Ashlyn
03-02-2007, 12:31 PM
:lol: Okay, he might not be the most respected guy in the industry, but his Oscar and numerous other awards so set him up on a higher level than your random crazy filmmaker.

Webeh
03-02-2007, 03:02 PM
^ I'm still bitter about his wins. Totally did not deserve those Oscars. I'd still put him on the lower half of the director totem pole. (Or, at least the lower-middle. There have been quite a few directors after all.)

Yeah, I'm a film geek. ;)

Totally random comment. (More random than my James Cameron comments.) It's thunder and snowing outside. Weird combination, huh?