Buffy & Angel #21: "Forever...that's the whole point."

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Reasons to love Buffy and Angel
1) b/c she found him attractive when they met in the alleyway.
2) b/c he wish he could give her what a normal girl had.
3) b/c he broke up with for so she could have a normal relationship.
4) b/c he always came back to help her.
5) b/c she let him drink from her to save him.
6) b/c he wasn't willingly.
7) b/c he bought her a cure in "earshot".
8) b/c she was the only girl he's ever loved.
9) b/c they'll never be just friends.
10) b/c she'll always be his girl.
11) b/c she liked him the moment she saw him.
12) b/c he was there for her when her mom died.

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13) b/c even in "forever"" they they could feel the passion arise.
14) b/c he was jealous when she danced with xander.
15) b/c she only did it to make him crazy.
16) b/c a vampire in love with a slayer is poetic.
17) b/c they shared the first kiss on the show.
18) b/c they shared the last kiss on the show.
19) b/c she trusted him.
20) b/c he was hers first.
21) b/c all she saw was him in her future.
22) b/c killing him was the hardest thing ever.

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23) b/c she cried when she did.
24) b/c he gave her his jacket.
25) b/c he gave her a crucifix.
26) b/c he bought her a promise (claddagh) ring.
27) b/c it was hard for her to see faith and angel kiss.
28) b/c he was with her in her dreams.
29) b/c he stopped her from dying.
30) b/c he saved her in "pangs" but didn't take the credit.
31) b/c they shared the same dreams.
32) b/c he protected her when she didn't know.
33) b/c he fought riley because of her.
34) b/c BA will never change.
35) b/c he's the only freaky thing that makes sense to her.
36) b/c all she wanted was him.
38) b/c it hurt them being apart.
39) b/c he was made human for one day and they made love.
40) b/c he was her date to the prom.

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41) b/c they have their own theme tune.
42) b/c he never stopped "stalking" her.
43) b/c the way they looked at each other was unique.
44) b/c theirs is an eternal love.
45) b/c they always had a few more hours before sunrise.
46) b/c she wanted her life to be with him.
47) b/c when he's around the lights dim everywhere else.
48) b/c she felt his heart beat.
49) b/c of the "look" she gave angel on "the yoko factor" to get away from riley.
50) b/c of the smirk on angel's face when he passes riley.
51) b/c she didn't notice he was "vamped" while touching his face at the skating rink.

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52) b/c he cried on his knees while embracing her.
53) b/c he told her he didnt like riley. (who does??)
54) b/c of the way angel's face gets when "buffy" is mentioned.
55) b/c only buffy is capable of giving him a true moment of happiness.
56) b/c it only took one look at Buffy for him to love her.
57) b/c of the way Angel surprised her at the prom.
58) b/c even when his not around she feels him and vice-versa.
59) b/c she felt like a normal girl for the 1st time only in angel's arms.
60) b/c forever was the whole point.
61) b/c he came back from hell to her.
62) b/c she cried when she found out angelus was back.
63) b/c they kissed in the sunlight.
64) b/c she's never forget.
65) b/c forever works.
66) b/c their kiss in "angel" was full of passion.
67) b/c nothing will ever compare to him.
68) b/c at one point he was the only one there for her.
69) b/c it wasn't about the sex.
70) b/c it was so deep.
71) b/c they would be together till the sun came up.
72) b/c he is waiting till she is done baking.
73) b/c they are what true love really is.
75) b/c he wanted to have coffee.
76) b/c they went to the ice rink together.
77) b/c the graveyard is their past time.
78) b/c he came back to sunnydale to apologise.
79) b/c it's a punishment that he can see her but she cant see him.

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80) b/c they ate ice cream together.
81) b/c in his arms she felt normal.
82) b/c she was still what angelus thought about all the time.
83) b/c he protected her from the mayor.
84) b/c she watched him disppear in the mist.
85) b/c sarah loves working with david.
86) b/c she said i miss you already my angel at the TCA awards.
87) b/c he said sarah instead of buffy in IWRY.
88) b/c their chemistry was hot.
89) b/c theirs was a passion.
90) b/c the dream in "amends" was hot.
91) b/c he killed darla to save buffy.
92) b/c kissing him was unbelievable!
93) b/c he sacrificed every drop of human happiness and love for her.
94) b/c even if he was blind, he would see her.
95) b/c he wants her really badly.
96) b/c he missed watching buffy fight.
97) b/c sometimes she thinks that far ahead about the whole cookie analogy.
98) b/c in spike's own words, she's got angel breath.
99) b/c she took care of him all night when he came back from hell.
100) b/c we never get tired of watching those two just look at each other.
101) b/c they walked in the snow together
102) b/c their first kiss bought out the passion in him.
103) b/c they liked to get hot and sweaty.
104) b/c he would kill anyone who tried to hurt her.
105) b/c in her own words, don't you date her my boyfriend.
106) b/c friendship would never be enough.
107) b/c they spend most nights watching the sun come up.
108) b/c she was the only one who saw the good in him.
109) b/c he gave her the best b-day present ever ;)

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110) b/c she really needed him to be there.
111) b/c he made it hurt less.
112) b/c even after 2 years apart, he was the one who pulled her through.
113) b/c without him there she didnt know what she would have done.
114) b/c not a moment passed by when they werent in each other's thoughts.
115) b/c it tore her apart to kill him.
116) b/c to hurt this girl you've got to love her.
117) b/c of the look on his face when he found out she'd died.
118) b/c he saved her from caleb.
119) b/c he went to Italy for her.
120) b/c he'd never be cool with her being with someone else.
121) b/c even with cordelia he said her name.
122) b/c she trusted him.
123) b/c their connection was more then just sex.
124) b/c they tried so hard to make it work.
125) b/c she wanted to protect him from the world.
126) b/c he cried in her arms.
127) b/c she took care of him when he was ill.
128) b/c she felt she could do anything with him.
129) b/c he couldnt lie to her.
130) b/c he couldnt tell her he didn't love her anymore.

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131) b/c he didn't accept that.
132) b/c when he's around, the lights get dimmer.
133) b/c she liked his tattoo.
134) b/c he thought she looked pretty when she slept.
135) b/c when he kissed her, she wanted to die.
136) b/c of the sewer talks.
137) b/c we cant say they didnt try.
138) b/c love was truly blind.
139) b/c she offered him her bed.
140) b/c the first love is the one you never forget.
141) b/c she told him to take his shirt of.
142) b/c they slept together without needing the sex.
143) b/c she tried to make him go away but couldn't.
144) b/c even when she's sleeping he's in her mind.
145) b/c she made him feel human.
146) b/c she was in the position to know.
147) b/c he was the perfect gentleman.
148) b/c they share the common goal.
149) b/c he was her back up.
150) b/c he hept her picture in his book.
151) b/c he was the first guy who liked her.
152) b/c she thought he was a hunk.
153) b/c she could never deny her feelings for him.
154) b/c she loved his penentrating eyes.
155) b/c he was in her most private thoughts.
156) b/c only he has the power to hurt her.
158) b/c she fell for his angelic face.
159) b/c she could feel his presence.
160) b/c he watched her from the shadows.
161) b/c he never truly walked away.
162) b/c he isnt getting any older.
163) b/c he'll wait forever if that's what it takes.
164) b/c in the next life they will be together.

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165) b/c people who belong together find their way back somehow.
166) b/c THEY HAVE SOMETHING YOU CAN NEVER REPEAT.
167) b/c it's about true love and connection.
168) b/c it's true love in it's purest form.
169) b/c the finale was made extra special for her because of BA being together.
170) b/c both personally and professionally, she loves david.
171) b/c BA-true love never dies.
172) b/c spike will never ever be buffy's first love.
173) b/c she will always be his girl.
174) b/c angel always makes buffy cry ever she love it.
175) b/c buffy told angel that she loved riley to make him feel hurt like angel hurt her after he left.
176) b/c angel told buffy that he will never go anywhere.
177) b/c he will alway there for her no matter what.
178) b/c Cordy are not buffy.
179) b/c when angel made out with cordy, he called buffy's name.
180) b/c he get tear when he know buffy die.
181) b/c he run away for 3 months because buffy's death broke his heart.
182) b/c he wants her have real boyfriend BUT he doesn't want to.
183) b/c BA = perfect happiness.
184) b/c even when she can't see him, she knows he's there.

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Bangel Mixtape
'Close Your Eyes' by Christophe Beck
'Wild Horses' by the Sundays
'If There's Love' by Citizen Cope
'Sideways' by Citizen Cope

SMG: "In my opinion, Buffy and Angel should be together forever, but I understand for storytelling purposes, it's not to be. Angel is Buffy's true love. They have something you can never repeat. I mean, I understand it when people say nothing is ever the same after your first true love. They were soul mates.''

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[Krysie]

Yay for the new thread. it has been a while! I love your sig and the 1st post! :heart:

[sethsangel123]

lovely! love the title!

[Krazy]

Thanks for the new thread and i love the new title too :D

I've been watching early season 3 and i love all those dreams she has about him :( :heart:

[Lily]

ack! nearly missed this, thanks Nic!
it's so purdy, what would we do without Laura? and you're sig keeps making me go awwww Nic :love:

awww the dreams, the one in Anne gets me every time, makes me all wistful and sad that she doesn't get to remember the stuff from 'IWRY'

[tigre86]

^ Aw thanks Katie, I finally saw the ep and it just slayed me, The Body and Forever are the best episodes since s3 imo. Also I think you're forgetting that IWRY happened when s4 of Buffy was on so those dreams aren't related to that. ;) Though I did like them..it was sad how he was haunting her though. I felt so terrible for Buffy during that time.

No problem guys! Glad you like the title. :)

[LauzG]

awww the dreams, the one in Anne gets me every time, makes me all wistful and sad that she doesn't get to remember the stuff from 'IWRY'

Buffy: How did you find me here?
Angel: If I was blind, I would see you.
Buffy: Stay with me.
Angel: Forever. That's the whole point. I'll never leave. Not even if you kill me.

That moment on the beach was ridiculously beautiful.

[Krazy]

^^I totally agree. It was on the beach and they both looked so pretty and at peace together :love:

What about that scene where they are dancing at the Bronze?And he starts to bleed :heart: :(

I love that scene in "Forever" between them, I'm so glad HE was the one to comfort her :D "The Body" was such a sad episode. :crying:

[tigre86]

^ Yeah it really was. :(

Speaking of those episodes, I posted a small pic!spam of The Body and Forever on my journal, you can check it out here (http://tigre86.livejournal.com/378404.html?mode=reply). :)

[rafaboreanaz]

That title is made of win! :heart:

Your picspam brought me to tears Nic! Beautiful.
Those were off the charts amazing episodes!

[Krazy]

I'm watching season 2. I'm on that part when Buffy and Angel sleep together and he loses his soul. The next episode was so heartbreaking esp when she asks "wasn't i good?". I love and hate Angelus at the same time.

[Lily]

^ god, that is one of the few times i've ever watched something and been hurting SO BAD for a character i thought my own heart would break, Sarah just kills me with the way she plays that
and Angelus is such a bastard, it's the most horrible but amazing scene/concept thing

[tigre86]

^ It really is. I enjoyed the Angelus stuff because we really got to see how strong Buffy is and how deep her love for him went. I actualy think that Angelus still felt the love Angel had for her which is why he wanted to destroy her so badly so that aspect of it was interesting for me. It was so heartbreaking and so brilliant, especially when it got to the end with Becoming, her having to give up her Angel who came back to her at last. Such a great story arch, the most interesting one on BtVS if you ask me.

[LauzG]

^ It really is. I enjoyed the Angelus stuff because we really got to see how strong Buffy is and how deep her love for him went. I actualy think that Angelus still felt the love Angel had for her which is why he wanted to destroy her so badly so that aspect of it was interesting for me. It was so heartbreaking and so brilliant, especially when it got to the end with Becoming, her having to give up her Angel who came back to her at last. Such a great story arch, the most interesting one on BtVS if you ask me.

I completely agree, Nic. In "IOHEFY" when each of the spirits left their bodies, the continued to kiss and they stayed with one another for like a second until she said "Angel" and he pushed her away. He could have killed her any time he wanted, when she was sleeping and he was creeping in her window, touching the side of her face...in Killed by death, he could have killed her. And fair enough, Angelus likes to play and torture his victim but there was definately something inside of him that COULDN'T let her go.
I love it when Angelus comes to play :)

[Krysie]

I sure need to watch the show again. I miss these two :heart:

[tigre86]

So true Laura, he liked to play games, but he did tell someone that to destroy this girl you have to love her which indicates to me that he did in one way or another.

On FF, there's a fun BA Survey going around so I thought I'd bring it over here. :)

Buffy and Angel Survey

1. Forever Kiss or End of Days/Chosen Kiss?

2. First Time They Meet or Angel Comes Back in S4 and They Talk in the Hallway?

3. Suprise Love Scene or Amends Love Scene?

4.Did Angelus Love Buffy?

5. Table Sex or Sunlight Kiss

6. IWRY Final Minute or Buffy Kills Angel in BP2?

7. What Buffy and Angel Moment Did You Cry the Most At?

Episodes

8. The Prom or Forever?

9. I Will Remember or Surprise?

10. Innocence or Surprise?

11. Forever or Chosen?

12. Angel the Episode or Revelations?

13. Beauty And the Beasts or Amends?

14. Graduation Day Part 1/2 or The Prom

15. Becoming Part 1/2 or Amends?

My Answers:
Buffy and Angel Survey

1. Forever Kiss or End of Days/Chosen Kiss?
Forever kiss, it was beautiful for me in that it was about need, loss, longing, heartache, and love. It just had everything BA represent in it, I could literally feel them shivering inside as they kissed.

2. First Time They Meet or Angel Comes Back in S4 and They Talk in the Hallway?
This is a hard one since I love the scene in Yoko Factor, but I'll have to go with when they first meet, there was just something so mysterious and unknown about it that I love.

3. Suprise Love Scene or Amends Love Scene?
Wasn't the actual love scene shown in Innocence? Either way, I'm still going with Surprise, there was just something so raw and romantic about that whole end scene with them soaked from the rain. So powerful.

4. Did Angelus Love Buffy?
Yes. Since essentially Angelus is connected to Angel and vice versa, it's an inevitable link that can't be severed with or without a soul. I think that's why he was so hell-bent on destroying her, to get rid of those feelings of love he could still sense around him which explains why in "I Only Have Eyes For You" he kept kissing her until the spell was broken until she said the name of the hated soul bearer. Angelus version of love is somewhat twisted of course, but I still believe he retained that love Angel had for Buffy and maybe in a sense, he had to destroy the world to get rid of that love and to get rid of the girl he could never really have since Angel is the one she loves.

5. Table Sex or Sunlight Kiss
The sunlight kiss, it was just so powerful and beautiful, no words were needed between them. It was a purely happy moment for both of them.

6. IWRY Final Minute or Buffy Kills Angel in BP2?
While I find IWRY heartbreaking, BP2 just shattered me, I've never cried that much during any other scene on a tv show so that is definitely my pick.

7. What Buffy and Angel Moment Did You Cry the Most At?
When Buffy kills Angel and any other time she mentions it later on in the show I still cry like a little baby. It's heartbreaking on so many levels.

Episodes

8. The Prom or Forever?
I love the BA scenes and the end scene of Forever, but if I had to choose based on the overall episode I'd go with The Prom. It had so many sad and aw worthy moments.

9. I Will Remember or Surprise?
Surprise.

10. Innocence or Surprise?
Surprise.

11. Forever or Chosen?
Forever. [Haven't seen Chosen yet so my answer is kind of bias.]

12. Angel the Episode or Revelations?
Angel.

13. Beauty And the Beasts or Amends?
Amends. Favorite episode of s3 period.

14. Graduation Day Part 1/2 or The Prom
Graduation Day Part 1/2.

15. Becoming Part 1/2 or Amends?
Becoming Part 1/2.

[LauzG]

1. Forever Kiss or End of Days/Chosen Kiss?
Hmm tough question but I'm going to have to go for End of Days/Chosen kiss. They hadn't seen one another since that mysterious meeting they had (where Buffy supposedly left Sunnydale for a couple of days and met up with Angel after her bout with death), and it was just so...Buffy/Angel. Angel coming into save the day, the witty comment...and the big kiss. I couldnt have asked for a better finale :)

2. First Time They Meet or Angel Comes Back in S4 and They Talk in the Hallway?
My favourite episodes in season four are literally the two where Angel make an appearance. And while they are my favourite, I am going to have to say the first time they met. Him stalking her down a dark alley way, her being on guard not sure of his character. It was just played so incredibly well.

3. Suprise Love Scene or Amends Love Scene?
Of course it's gonna be season two. Like Nic said, the rain...him having just told her that he loved her for the first time..it was just idealic.

4.Did Angelus Love Buffy?
Yes. His thoughts instantly go to her, she's always on his mind. "Passion. It lies in all of us. Sleeping... waiting... And though unwanted... unbidden... it will stir... open its jaws, and howl. It speaks to us... guides us... Passion rules us all. And we obey. What other choice do we have?"

5. Table Sex or Sunlight Kiss
The Sunlight kiss. I dont think I really need to explain.

6. IWRY Final Minute or Buffy Kills Angel in BP2?
Killing Angel in Becoming Part 2. And that's why, because she made the ulitmate sacrifice and actually KILLED Angel. She was fighting Angelus, she had spent weeks building herself up to kill the body which once hosted Angel only to be confronted with Angel before all hell breaks lose. That whole scene and her walking away from school just kills me every time. It's like ET dying all over again.

7. What Buffy and Angel Moment Did You Cry the Most At?
I think it was IWRY, for the simple reason that these two characters had been a part of my life for four years. We had grown to love them over a time and of course there was never going to be a happily ever after in season one of angel, but it was devasting because we got to witness that minute...

Episodes

8. The Prom or Forever?
The Prom
9. I Will Remember or Surprise?
Surprise
10. Innocence or Surprise?
Surprise
Angelus: You can't do it. You can't kill me.
Buffy: Give me time.

11. Forever or Chosen?
Chosen

12. Angel the Episode or Revelations?
Angel

13. Beauty And the Beasts or Amends?
Amends

14. Graduation Day Part 1/2 or The Prom
Graduation Day Part 1/2

15. Becoming Part 1/2 or Amends?
Becoming Part 1 and 2

[rafaboreanaz]

It's torture for me to have to pick between bangel scenes. Seriously, especially the ones this survey has. This is gonna be hard. :lol:

Buffy and Angel Survey

1. Forever Kiss or End of Days/Chosen Kiss?
I think I'll go with the Forever kiss, not just for the kiss itself, but because of what it meant to Buffy having Angel there. She knows he's the one she can always count on, and he always knows just what to say to make her feel better. And of course... one of my favorite quotes is in this scene.. "How's forever? Does forever work for you?". That sounds like something Buffy from 2nd/3rd season would say, and I just love Buffy's personality and her actions on those seasons.

2. First Time They Meet or Angel Comes Back in S4 and They Talk in the Hallway?
I guess when he comes back in S4. I love that whole scene, the smirk Angel gives Riley, how he doesn't like Riley and he's not shy about it, when they laugh about Angel trying to make things better and clearly not succeeding. But that's the thing between them, always trying to help each other even if they don't ask for help.

3. Suprise Love Scene or Amends Love Scene?
Surprise love scene. It's so original, the lighting, the close ups, the red sheets contrasting with their light skin. It's all perfect.
And I watched the ep with Joss comments on it, and I thought it was so funny he was feeling completely awkward directing his first love scene, while Sarah and David were being goofs and joking about it :love:.

4.Did Angelus Love Buffy?
Yes, and the reason is the same the girls already mentioned. Even Willow said in one episode "You're still the only thing he thinks about". He just couldn't kill her, and it was not just because he wanted to drive her nuts. Something inside him was stronger than his psychotic actions, and that's his heart.

5. Table Sex or Sunlight Kiss
God.. this is impossible to choose. :lol:
Alright.. the sunlight kiss. The scene pretty much speaks for itself. It's their ultimate wish... to be "normal" as a couple, at least once in their lifetime, and they got it. For her to see him in the sun, and for him to hold her just like a normal boyfriend in daylight, is something genius. I'm glad we got to see such a perfect scene.

6. IWRY Final Minute or Buffy Kills Angel in BP2?
Well.. it was more than heartbreaking to see that final minute in IWRY, but I'm gonna go with Buffy killing Angel. She had so much going on in her life already, it would be easier for her to kill Angelus, but no... Joss loves to see us cry a river. And even worse, he doesn't remember anything hes done in the last months, so it all adds up to make this one of the most painful and sad scenes of Buffy.

7. What Buffy and Angel Moment Did You Cry the Most At?
Definitely on IWRY. It is probably my all time favorite episode, and it just has everything a true Bangel shipper wants. I wouldn't mind ending both series, right in that episode, if it meant for Buffy to remember everything, and they would be able to finally be together. That's how much I love that episode.
And about the crying, let's just say it took me a few days to recover, cause I just started crying out of nowhere, everytime I remembered the whole story.

Episodes

8. The Prom or Forever?
The Prom

9. I Will Remember or Surprise?
I will remember you

10. Innocence or Surprise?
Surprise
I love it how the entire episode adds up to Buffy and Angel making love at the end. Also, I just love that Claddagh ring scene.

11. Forever or Chosen?
Forever

12. Angel the Episode or Revelations?
Revelations

13. Beauty And the Beasts or Amends?
Amends

14. Graduation Day Part 1/2 or The Prom
The Prom
It's too hard to see Angel leaving, so I rather stick to the dance scene. It's less hurtful.

15. Becoming Part 1/2 or Amends?
Becoming 1/2
It's a masterpiece.

[Lily]

oooh Quizziness, you know i can't resist a meme :D

Buffy and Angel Survey

1. Forever Kiss or End of Days/Chosen Kiss?
Chosen, cause it's so them - we hack things up, ooooh nookie! and i'd been waiting so DAMN long for it! i should not have gotten spoiled about it 6 months before i saw the ep

2. First Time They Meet or Angel Comes Back in S4 and They Talk in the Hallway?
First time they meet for sure, it's so much more intense, especially when I watch it now I get that shiver tingle 'cause i know what's to come and how big things come from that small moment.

3. Surprise Love Scene or Amends Love Scene?
Surprise..it is just perfect B/A checmistry for me, the way it's not in your face slutsex scene, teh music, the lighting, the way he's so getnle with her and she's so unsure of herself but sure that it's way she wants to be doing because she's sure about him.

4.Did Angelus Love Buffy?
yup, and that's what killed him and made him NEED to kill her, it's like Darla and baby!Connor, they loved and hated the fact that they had the ability to love despite the evil that they were so proud of
plus the B/A love goes beyond souls and hearts and minds, it's in their blood, they were made for each other

5. Table Sex or Sunlight Kiss
Sunlight Kiss! so much angst turning into JOY!

6. IWRY Final Minute or Buffy Kills Angel in BP2?
BP2, it's not the best kept secret that i'm not the biggest fan of IWRY, i think it's absolutely the STUPIDEST thing EVER that Buffy didn't get to remember, and there is no way i would be eating icecream with angel, i would have better things to do with my slayer strength thank you very much. It's too fluffy for B/A, i wanted that to be perfect and it lacked something important and i can't figure what it is.
whereas BP2, that moment is filled with all the things that make B/A awesome, the angst and pain, the joy of being reunited, the cosmic mind-f*k of having him back only to send him to hell, the guilt and the 'saving the world is bigger than all of us' lesson is important *nods*

7. What Buffy and Angel Moment Did You Cry the Most At?
probably Becoming Part 2, although i did bawl like a baby after they broke up in The Prom and Buff is crying on Will's lap about 'how it feels like she can't breath' that just about broke my heart. oh and the cry fest i had when angelus was all 'you were bad' post sex, i felt her break inside so HARD.

Episodes

8. The Prom or Forever?
The Prom, bring on the corny, as long as it looks like Angel in a tux

9. I Will Remember or Surprise?
Surprise!

10. Innocence or Surprise?
argh that's hard...Innocence..*just*

11. Forever or Chosen?
Chosen cause cookie dough! makes me laugh and laugh :D

12. Angel the Episode or Revelations?
another toughie, Revelations

13. Beauty And the Beasts or Amends?
Amends, but only cause i really don't get the other storylines in B&tB

14. Graduation Day Part 1/2 or The Prom
The Prom, cause i like the break up, i'm twisted like that, it lead to good scenes, i can take pain and breakups if they make sense

15. Becoming Part 1/2 or Amends?
Becoming P1/2 without a doubt, hands down one of the best episodes ever

[rafaboreanaz]

I love reading these surveys and knowing everyone's different point of views. It's nice, since none of my friends have ever watched Buffy. Their loss though. :lol:

Is it just here, or there are only 2 threads on our Buffy forum?

[Lily]

technically there are 8!
but you'll have to set your view to 'show all from beginning' to see them all cause they have a been a leeeettllee bit unloved

[tigre86]

^ Was there a Buffy thread at some point? I could've sworn I posted on one here...

Loved reading everyone's answers too, it's always great to see how other shippers differ in opinion on the same questions. :)

[sethsangel123]

we must get the buffy threads up and running again!!!!!

its sucha great show that even 5 years after its goine off of the air people everywhere are still watchign it! and new people are being exposed and introduced to it everyday!

[Deiona]

can I be added? :D

[rafaboreanaz]

Welcome Deiona! Are you Deia on FF? :D

I so agree with you Shez! Let's shake this up.

[Deiona]

Yes, I am :D

And I love the OP. :inlove:

[tigre86]

Welcome to the thread, I added you! You should fill out the survey, I'd love to see what your answers would be. :)

[sea of doubts]

May I be added please? :D

[rafaboreanaz]

Welcome sea of doubts!
Your sig is beautiful, loved that sky. :rolleyes:

[sea of doubts]

Thanks for the welcome! :D

And aww, thanks. :)

Are you rafaboreanaz on Fanforum too by the way?

[tigre86]

^ Welcome to the thread, I added you! You should fill out the survey too, it's on the last two pages. :)

[sea of doubts]

And it's Shauna by the way, from fanforum & LJ. ;) I completely forgot I had an account here until the other day, :lol:

Thanks for the add hun! :D

[rafaboreanaz]

Thanks for the welcome! :D
And aww, thanks. :)
Are you rafaboreanaz on Fanforum too by the way?

Yeap. That's me. :D

[tigre86]

Oh hey Shauna, glad to see you here. :D And no problem about the add, glad there are more posters on this thread now!

[rafaboreanaz]

http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs32/f/2008/226/5/2/Buffy_and_Angel_Banner_by_rafaboreanaz.jpg

Made this today. :)

[Lily]

oooooh that's pretty, and also, fun - 'cause now i have that song in my head, and it's gonna remind me of B/A :)

[tigre86]

That's so pretty! I especially love the moon in the middle, hehe.

Sadly I haven't heard that song, but the lyrics are pretty. :heart:

[Lily]

it's Sarah McLachlan, you must have heard it, it's called Do What You Have To Do
ugh most intense breakup song ever (and perfect choice for B/A)

What ravages of spirit
conjured this temptuous rage
created you a monster
broken by the rules of love
and fate has lead you through it
you do what you have to do
and fate has led you through it
you do what you have to do ...

and I have the sense to recognize that
I don't know how to let you go
every moment marked
with apparitions of your soul
I'm ever swiftly moving
trying to escape this desire
the yearning to be near you
I do what I have to do
the yearning to be near you
I do what I have to do
but I have the sense to recognize

that I don't know how
to let you go
I don't know how
to let you go

a glowing ember
burning hot
burning slow
deep within I'm shaken by the violence
of existing for only you

I know I can't be with you
I do what I have to do
I know I can't be with you
I do what I have to do
and I have sense to recognize but
I don't know how to let you go
I don't know how to let you go
I don't know how to let you go

imma upload it for you when i get a chance, it's so haunting

[sethsangel123]

so very pretty that banner is! i love it!!

those lyrics soo fitting!

why does sarah mclachlan wrtie the saddest songs!

[Lily]

Shez!! omg i totally forgot you lived in Melbs, i live here now, we so need to have a B/A marathon!

oh and here's the linkage to the song CLICK ME (http://www.sendspace.com/file/uh5nz7)
I don't know why she writes such sad songs, even the ones after she found the love of her life and had her beautiful baby girl are still pretty depressing and you'd think she'd be full of happy love songs by now!

[sethsangel123]

i doooo lives in melb!!!! best city ever!! lol!

i miss my buffy and angel! i havent watched them for like ever! my buffyverse dvds are feeling neglected! ive been al about FRIENDS for the past month ( as i just recently got them form a friend who purchased them from thailand for me!!!!) so i really now need to watch them or else they may tirn on me and one day just magically not work anymore!!! :P

[rafaboreanaz]

Thanks guys. :)

Hope you downloaded the song Nic. It screams Bangel. :love:
I always say Sarah Mclachlan is a huge Bangel fan, after all she writes the most amazing and the most fitting songs for our couple. :rolleyes:

[tigre86]

Thanks Kaite, though that's not the song is it? It's not Sarah. :confused:

So my friend is watching s3 for the first time, I love reliving BA memories through a newbie. Even if I was one myself a year ago. :lol:

[Lily]

oh crap! i put the wrong link in! that was for Theresa and i did them at the same time *sigh* they just should not let me out of my cage, i'll try again when i get home lol

[tigre86]

I had a feeling that happened, I do it all the time. I just wanted to be sure my thinking matched reality there. :lol: If it's any consolation, that song is pretty as well. ;)

[Lily]

and trying again with the link http://www.sendspace.com/file/bf270e

[LauzG]

Haha I snuck in and downloaded the other song *blushes* I had forgotten what a lovely voice RDJ has!
I'm in the mood for a little Buffy R'n'N, maybe after work I'll get out my season one or two dvds and watch the chemistry between Buffy and Angel sizzle.
It's amazing that lately the hottest topic in film and tv is all about vampires, what with twilight, moonlight and true blood. Let's not forget where it all started...at least where it started for me. Back when BtVS aired I was a little young to be reading Anne Rice novels.

[tigre86]

^ I think vamps are always in style so to speak, people just go through phases depending on what's in media. Anyyways, I'm sort of the opposite, I was never really into the vamp thing, still really not, but Buffy sucked me in anyways. Probably because of the BA story and the general life theme of the show, love it.

Thank you Katie! :D I'll listen to it when I have time this afternoon once classes are done.