Same-sex Marriage... Accept or oppose? - Page 3

littleputz114 · 07-27-2011, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MacGyver

Some people have said that it could be called something other than marriage. That's fine. The problem is that in order to have the exact same rights as married couples, it MUST be called marriage.
Civil Unions give couples a lot of rights, but not the same rights as married couples have.

If you gave them all the same rights as marriage, but didn't call it marriage, it couldn't work. It has to be marriage as only marriage gives all the rights that SS couples want.

Also, if it did have another name, you'd have to open the door to straight people who didn't want to marry, but just wanted to have some kind of a union which was legally binding.
Now, why allow straight people to take part in something that has been awarded to gay couples when gay couples cannot take part in marriage?

Exactly, exactly. Spot on.

shilohkitty90 · 07-27-2011, 06:56 PM

So what about medical and Life insurance are those a couple of the things you are talking about with marriage being legalized between same sex couples?

MacGyver · 07-28-2011, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by shilohkitty90

So what about medical and Life insurance are those a couple of the things you are talking about with marriage being legalized between same sex couples?

Being able to file a joint tax return is one of the perks.

Imagine living with your partner for decades but being forced to file a separate tax return because the state doesn't recognise your relationship. That hardly sounds fair, does it?
Now that gays can marry in New York, they can file joint tax returns, which is more convenient for them - and the state.

MizzPelirrojo · 07-28-2011, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by shilohkitty90

Agreed politics, religion, and I guess now we can add sexuality to the list of do not talk abouuts.

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Originally Posted by ashleabeep

haha for reals! im a telephone interviewer, and recently weve been adding the question of sexuality to the general questions. and i always feel so awkward asking, because some people really get offended by it!

Agreed... ! Hahah

Its already a NO at my dinner table, especially with guests over.

MizzPelirrojo · 07-28-2011, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by littleputz114

Comparing two people in love to a person marrying an animal is not something you should go around preaching to the public. Just a warning. I would also hardly call that thinking outside the box, kid.

See this video:

‪Ellen Degeneres-TheBeginning - about same-sex marriage and dating a goat‬&rlm; - YouTube

Lol. Do not call me kid.

MizzPelirrojo · 07-28-2011, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MacGyver

Some people have said that it could be called something other than marriage. That's fine. The problem is that in order to have the exact same rights as married couples, it MUST be called marriage.
Civil Unions give couples a lot of rights, but not the same rights as married couples have.

If you gave them all the same rights as marriage, but didn't call it marriage, it couldn't work. It has to be marriage as only marriage gives all the rights that SS couples want.

Also, if it did have another name, you'd have to open the door to straight people who didn't want to marry, but just wanted to have some kind of a union which was legally binding.
Now, why allow straight people to take part in something that has been awarded to gay couples when gay couples cannot take part in marriage?

Huh never thought of it that away. You're right then. thankss.

shilohkitty90 · 07-28-2011, 05:50 PM

I don't see the difference between a joint or single tax return I personally wish I didn't hve to file jointly

MacGyver · 07-29-2011, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by shilohkitty90

I don't see the difference between a joint or single tax return I personally wish I didn't hve to file jointly

I a not sure, but I think a single tax return means you and your partner file a separate return. If you go to an accountant, that's probably going to cost uyou more money because you both need an appointment.

If you file a joint one, its just both incomes merged and only one appointment with the accountant. Plus, it is less work for the state to process your return and send you your tax return.

So basically, it is cheaper and more convenient for couples, and means less work for the state. A win win situation.

Querida · 07-29-2011, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryan,

The right to the pursuit of happiness is written in the foundation of our country. You're not guaranteed happiness but you are sure to be allowed to try and find it. I believe the right to marry someone of the same sex falls under this. Just getting married doesn't equal happiness but everyone should be able to get married and see if they can find it in the long run.

I completely agree with this. If only more people felt this way...

shilohkitty90 · 07-29-2011, 05:07 PM

MacGyver--I a not sure, but I think a single tax return means you and your partner file a separate return. If you go to an accountant, that's probably going to cost uyou more money because you both need an appointment.

What does that matter if that's why they want to file together that's really kinda unimportant. So what you pay a hundred dollars more but filing single you get more back. I don't see why a joint tax return is one of the important things about same sex marriage other things maybe but if that were the only thing I wouldn't even think that possibly same sex marriage should happen. So I guess it's good that's not what it's based on.

MacGyver · 07-31-2011, 01:34 AM

Marriage grants you more rights. The government give you more legal rights as a couple. I am not married so I don't know much, but for married couples, think of what you are allowed to do now that you couldn't do when you were just dating.

HPwitch14 · 08-02-2011, 09:23 PM

I accept it. Why should we force someone else to live in a way that doesn't make them happy? If those people want to be gay then let them. Why should we take their happiness away just because we don't like it?

MacGyver · 08-03-2011, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by HPwitch14

I accept it. Why should we force someone else to live in a way that doesn't make them happy? If those people want to be gay then let them. Why should we take their happiness away just because we don't like it?

^this. I agree.

shilohkitty90 · 08-03-2011, 04:20 PM

There isn't much more that I can do now that I couldn't when I was dating my husband other than file our taxes together you can do most anything dating. You can share bank accounts buying a house vehicles having children none of it requires marriage.

ThatOneChick · 08-03-2011, 09:20 PM

I see nothing wrong with it at all.

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shilohkitty90 Extra Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wyoming Posts: 227	MacGyver--I a not sure, but I think a single tax return means you and your partner file a separate return. If you go to an accountant, that's probably going to cost uyou more money because you both need an appointment. What does that matter if that's why they want to file together that's really kinda unimportant. So what you pay a hundred dollars more but filing single you get more back. I don't see why a joint tax return is one of the important things about same sex marriage other things maybe but if that were the only thing I wouldn't even think that possibly same sex marriage should happen. So I guess it's good that's not what it's based on. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter! __________________ AIM FOR THE BUSHES

07-31-2011, 01:34 AM	#41 (permalink)
MacGyver Extra Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: MacGyvers House Boat Posts: 383	Marriage grants you more rights. The government give you more legal rights as a couple. I am not married so I don't know much, but for married couples, think of what you are allowed to do now that you couldn't do when you were just dating. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter! __________________

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HPwitch14 Groupie Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 25	I accept it. Why should we force someone else to live in a way that doesn't make them happy? If those people want to be gay then let them. Why should we take their happiness away just because we don't like it? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter!

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08-03-2011, 04:20 PM	#44 (permalink)
shilohkitty90 Extra Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wyoming Posts: 227	There isn't much more that I can do now that I couldn't when I was dating my husband other than file our taxes together you can do most anything dating. You can share bank accounts buying a house vehicles having children none of it requires marriage. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter! __________________ AIM FOR THE BUSHES

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ThatOneChick Groupie Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 24	I see nothing wrong with it at all. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter!