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I feel the same way. Regina's grudge seems silly. But I kind of thought about it. Maybe this is just the seed that planted it. Over time with Snow growing up and competing with Regina for the King's attention. Regina just grew to resent her.
But what has me kind of uncomfortable about is the spoiler for The Stanger has come out. Regina is suppose to try and seduce David. While I see that its an ultimate f* you to Snow/MM I also kind of find it beneath Regina to do that, like its her last straw but maybe I guess if you have the power to seduce use it. I'm sure the writers will have an interesting twist. Maybe David will fall for it. He'll be a "normal" guy. But maybe it'll make his redemption in the end better? |
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It was very interesting to see Regina as a good person, since shes so good at being a bad one, lol. I liked her and felt bad for her. I have a theory about Regina that Ive already posted in the theory thread, so I wont here. I like how we got to see how she became Queen, Snow and Reginas first encounter and how Regina came to hate her. Fills in so much to the puzzle that was missing.
I particularly loved the part where Regina pinches Marys face and tells Mary that she knows she didnt kill Kathryn, but that she still deserves it. Wicked scary! I just LOVE Lanas acting! Also so glad Kathryns back. She seemed very out of it. Wonder if shell remember what happened at all, or if she'll start to confuse the two worlds or something like that. If I had to have a critique, it would be the whole shovel thing. Who wouldnt notice that in the shovel? And Regina never bothered to go back and get it? Thats my olny problem with that whole thing. Glad Emma knows about Sydney. Wonder if she'll continue to 'play' stupid now? I hoave a feeling she will and somehow set him and Regina up for a fall. |
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I have to agree that her motive is mostly to hurt MM. My guess is that Emma and Gold get MM's case thrown out with the reappearance of Kathryn. So, Regina needs a new way to mess with MM. Although her "hook up" with David would destroy her illusion of a friendship with Kathryn, wouldn't it? |
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I just discovered that theres only one more epi before the finale! I was thinking there'd be twenty two or so. Im very excited to see where the finale will leave us- AND if the show will be renewed *fingers crossed*
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I’m kind of in amazement after watching this episode. While some questions were answered (August is not Baelfire, Rumplestilskin created the curse, He hates fairies because they gave Bae the magic bean that took him away) there are still many more that were not or brought up by what did happen in the episode. I am not sure where to focus.
Something that I am curious about this episode had a lot of green in it. The phone in August’s room is green. Not sure but I think the eyes of the donkey paperweight were green, but I might have been seeing something that I wanted to. The vial of liquid that Rumple poured on Bae’s leg was green. The part of the forest where Bae heard about and called the Blue Fairy was extra green. Lastly the vortex Bae went through was green. I associate green with Oz and the Emerald City. Last night August did have a 1984 Kansas license plate on his motorcycle (paused the DVR just to make sure). In the first episode the flying monkeys were seen in the story book after Emma crashed into the Storybrooke sign. There was also a green door in the hall of doors when the Mad Hatter and the Evil Queen (wearing my favorite outfit so far) were going to Wonderland. Maybe the Wizard and the Land of Oz are closer than we know. Maybe Bae is in Oz, or maybe he ended up in Kansas after going through the magic bean vortex. Not sure. I was just really excited about the new episode. |
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I liked this episode. I felt really bad for Mr. Gold actually; it seems as though he was going to change and be a different person when he thought he was talking to his son. As for August, Im really really wondering who it was he was talking to on the phone. Someone else knows everything. WHO?! Also, now we know for sure that his son is out there somewhere in this world.
One discrepancy, why was Rumple afraid when the vortex appeared? I thought when he was first transformed by whatever dark force possessed him that one of the things he loved about it was that he could no longer feel any fear. That obviously was not true. I felt bad for him when he realized Bae was gone. There was absolutely nothing to hold him back after he was gone, though it seems his son really couldnt hold him back from killing people anyway. Sidney is so dumb. For there being no majic in this world he seems like hes under a spell to me. How can you love such a wicked person like Regina? I mean, her son doesnt even like her. As for Pinocchio....I never liked Pinocchio. Even as a child. The cartoon freaked me out as a child and it still quiet honestly does today. I will never watch it and its one movie NOT on my childrens list of movies...lol. So Im not warmed up to August at all. Thats how much I dont like Pinocchio. So next weeks episode Im not looking forward to at all. Wooden dolls who come to life are too freaky for me. ;-) |
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I still think that Regina has access to some form of magic. She crushed Graham's heart, but his heart was "outside his body", wouldn't that take some kind of magic? The apple tree seems to have some kind of strange properties. As for Sidney I think his devotion to Regina is a carry over from his other world self, the genie was so in love with her that he cursed himself to be with her forever even if it was as a mirror. |
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I agree that there must be some sort of magic in Storybrooke. No one can leave, for one and also nobody ages or notices it. As time has begun again in Storybrooke however, Im thinking that they can age now. Also, Gold holds power over Regina whenever he says 'please', carried over from the other world. But its definitely limited. Perhaps while there is a thin veil of magic over the town and its occupants, the possession or acquisition of magical powers and wizardry like in Fairytale world is what Gold was specifically referring to. |
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I liked this epi, especially the ending. The beginning was *grimace* painful for me to say the least (the whole wooden doll thing), and I had to fast forward it =P. I loved the emotion in Emma when August told her the truth. It was an outstanding performance IMO. Also, so glad David did NOT go down that road with Regina, which I really didnt think he would. Of course Regina is going to be furious now. That on top of MMs 'forgiving her' must really tick her off. I actually feel really bad for her. I still think shes under some sort of curse from her mother, courtesy of Rumple. So sad that Gepetto split up Snow and Emma, though I can understand his decision since it was his own sons life at stake, possibly. I like how the writers are tying everything up, putting it all together. I think the finale will end with Emma believing.
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Great ending to this last episode. I predicted Henry would eat the apple; was very obvious IMO. I wonder if Emma will believe now? Either way, she is going to be more then furious with Regina, and I think desperate as well. I like how the past fairytale scenes are all tying together. If one doesnt watch this show all the way through, I can see how one could get confused with whats going on, all the jumping around.
Not sure how I liked Regina being able to get her magic apple. How could there be magic in her ring (period), and/but nothing else- and for anyone else? Writers license, big time. But it did give an opening for Emma to believe by using the one person she (and Regina!) really loves- her son. So now we know how Snow comes to eat the Queens apple...and we know that Charming will find her and true loves kiss will break the spell. How will Charming make his escape? I expect to see how next epi. Excited to know if this show gets picked up for a S2 =) |
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I have a few lingering questions: 1) If Emma is able to "wake" everyone up and they remember, what will happen? Will they remain in Storybrooke with their new and old memories? This would only enhance the curse, wouldn't it? Remember what Jefferson said, "remembering is the worst possible thing". Although this could lead to people choosing sides: those that want to return to the fairytale world and those that want to remain in the "real world". 2) If Emma does begin to believe will August stop turning into wood? What happens to him if he turns completely into wood? Will be be a "living" wooden man or will he become a large wooden puppet? 3) If Henry is in the "living death coma" (my own term for Regina's poison apple spell) could Emma break the spell as she seems to truly love him, not romantically but motherly? Is true parental love the same a true romantic love? 4) Gold was planning a trip. Could he be planning to search for Baelfire? It would seem that has been his motive the whole time. To weaken the curse so that he could leave Storybrooke and find his son. I know not everything will be resolved in the finale but I hope we get some answers. They seems to be pretty good about not holding too many mysteries over our heads. Not like Lost did. |
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I think Emma is the one who can BREAK the curse and restore everyone back to how they were in Fairytale world. A major part of the curse is that fact that they are in 'our' world. If everyone remembered who they were, they would still be cursed, because they all couldnt be who they were...because there is no magic in this world. There would be no Jiminey cricket, no fairies, ect. And like you said, remembering is the worst possible thing...at least for some, that is. I could be that everyone will eventually remember and even THINK that the curse is over, or something to that effect, but I dont believe it would be. Theres more to it. Like HOW is Emma suppose to break the spell? True loves kiss breaks all spells, BUT who is there for Emma to fall in love with? August/Pinocchio? And IF that were to happen, how could that break the entire curse? Perhaps it cant...so many questions, so much conjecture.
I would think if Emma believes and breaks the curse, August would go back to being that boy again. He said it was his only hope to, and at present hes given up that hope. He cant live in this world as a puppet...he said he wouldnt be able to breath. You bring up a good question: "Is true parental love the same a true romantic love?" Hmm... I would have to think so. True love is true love, right? In Beauty and the Beast, Belle doesnt kiss the beast, if I remember correctly. She begins to cry, says I love you, and her tear falls on him...volia, the curse is broken. Yes, it was 'romantic' love, but I think it went even beyond that...and there was no kiss. She loved him, despite what he looked like or what he'd done. (btw Rumple really does fit the beast metaphorically, IMO). Will her tears awaken Henry? Or words spoken? A kiss on the cheek? I would think one of those things would, not sure how else it would work since hes only a child. I like your idea of Gold searching for his son. I think your right. Ooh, one more thing; Mr Gold told Regina that with every spell there is a price. Looks like Henry falling into the sleep could be that price. Last edited by Denae29; 05-08-2012 at 12:04 PM. Reason: added something |
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Regina's hate for Snow was still just as ridiculous the second time around... Even Snow pointed out she was just a little girl who trusted Regina's mother. I wish the writers had come up with a better reason for it. I think they do a great job with a lot of the story, but sometimes they really drop the ball.
I think something has to happen with Emma and the curse to stop August from dying, if only because, if I'm not mistaken, the actor is a series regular...so he probably isn't going anywhere. Maybe she'll believe enough that he'll stop turning to wood and stay how he is now. Or since he said he's turning to wood because he wasn't good, maybe he'll do something good enough that will reverse it?They kind of wasted Jefferson in this episode. No explanation for what happened when he fell out the window? I had to laugh a little when he said "you know I watch her" about his daughter. I'm surprised no one has called the cops on him for lurking around a little girl. I thought him wanting a new life with her in the real world was interesting, instead of choosing to go back to their world. Is there even anything there for them to return to? And what happened to her mother? I wonder if that's how things will end, with the curse being broken but everyone living in the real world without magic? Last edited by Amanda; 05-08-2012 at 05:08 PM. |
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