That was actually my next question about that song. So now that you've included one of the songs from your first album on the new EP, Suffering Moses. That song has a clear personal meaning. Can you talk a little bit about what that song is about and why you decided to include it on this one as well?

Din: Yeah, ah, well. In 2001 um this is right after 9/11 my brother and I went to Kashmir. Uh, I don't know how much you know about Kashmir, but it's been disputed territory for the last 50 or so years between India and Pakistan and there was a large militant uprising there during the last 16 years. You know, we're very familiar with the place because we have family there and we go back like every summer and the last time we were over there was like a year ago. Given what was going on at the time with 9/11 and that area, you know, South Asia, Central Asia, and the middle east being such a flash point, um, I think we were, I was, my eyes were just kind of wide open to what was going on there. And we took a trip there in December 2001 and at this point we had just released a single and an EP of three songs and I was, you know, trying to start writing songs for a record but I had nothing in mind. All I had were these vague ideas and that trip really inspired me. While I was there, ah, Suffering Moses was one of the first songs I wrong while I was over there and it was just basically a document of what I saw and how I felt, you know, being Kashmiri and having some sense of connection with this place and, um, you know, seeing what people had to go through. Uh, I mean I was always aware of that but for some reason this trip in particular I was just more hyper-aware. Because Kashmir is a very poetic place, it's known for its natural beauty, and um, so I just started noticing all these little things, things that you know were there since my childhood and I wanted to sort of just document that. And so I think that Suffering Moses is that song, that song about that trip basically, and what we saw there and what we wanted to see happen there.